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Hello and welcome to our seminar on financial surgery. My name is David Murray. I’ve been a financial surgeon for almost 30 years. We claim that in one 25 year period we never lost one patient on the operating table. That’s not to say that 2 didn’t jump off the operating table and were in receivership within 1 week. However, while in our surgery, no 1 patient died.

I want today to give you examples of what spectacular results can be achieved through negotiation.

In our dealings with many banks and financial institutions, we are subject to confidentiality clauses. Consequently, we cannot give exact cases with exact banks with exact clients with the exact spectacular results. However, today we have prepared some fictitious cases which will demonstrate what can be achieved.

Case 1 – Bank Debt Judgement 7%

This case involved a UK bank with debt in the UK and they had appointed an asset receiver over the property finance. The receiver sold the property and was at 2.1 million deficit after the sale of the property. UK bank got judgement in the UK court obtained a European enforcement order certificate. This European order was sanctioned in the high court in Ireland. The bank had appointed Irish solicitors to recover the debt. The solicitors had instructed the sheriff, were about to issue publication and to register judgement mortgage against the principle Irish properties.

The surgeon suggested the following solution. The debt was 2.1 million, settlement 7% which had a total amount of 140,700. This amounted to a write off of 1,959,300 and the condition put in by the surgeon was that it was payable within 30 days. The surgeon suggested this so there would be no doubt that the bank was going to get that money and it was not just trying to put it on the long finger. The bank were happy to accept this and the principles were happy to pay it having borrowed it from family and friends and save judgement mortgages be registered against their Irish properties.

Case 2 – Judgement Mortgage on 8 Properties

The financial surgeon was asked to consider the following case. The debt was 370,000 pounds, the institution was a north European financial institution. They had obtained judgement in the Irish Courts and they had registered a judgement mortgage on 8 properties. There was equity in the family home and minor equity on two other properties. The problem was whether we could leave the judgement mortgages on the 8 properties. However, the financial institution would be repaid on the sale or death in respect of any property with equity.

Therefore, the financial surgeon suggested the following solution that the clients would borrow from family and friends and offer a full and final settlement in the amount of 42,000 pounds. This equated to 12 cents in the pound. The financial institution was happy to accept that given the circumstances of the case and the clients were also happy to meet this requirement. On the payment of this settlement sum, the judgement mortgages were satisfied in respect of all 8 properties.

Case 3 – Commercial Residue – 2 Cents in the Euro

Financial Surgeon was asked to consider and recommend a solution to the following problem. The owners with 2 ordinary tradesmen and 1 businessman. The loan was 2.5 million. The loan was given by an Irish bank. The bank had appointed a receiver and in the bad old days the property would sold for for 300,000. This left a deficit of 2,200,000 and the tradesmen were on ordinary industrial wages and the businessman was in financial trouble.

The solution recommended was that the businessman would obtain a loan of 50,000 from another institution on the basis of this business. That he would offer on behalf of all 3 clients a full and final settlement in the amount of 50,000 to the Irish banking financial institution. This meant 2.2 million deficit, 50,000 paid settlement just over 2 cents in the euro. The bank again had little prospects in the future of the businessman making substantial funds and therefore were happy to accept this financial settlement.

Case 4 – Personal Guarantee – Null and Void

In this case the business and company had gone into liquidation. The company had a bank loan of 520,000. The 2 directors had personally guaranteed this loan to the bank. The problem was that the business had gone bust, the directors’ source of income had ceased and they had limited private resources.

The solution in this case – the financial surgeon reviewed the last 5 facility letters issued by the bank in respect of this loan. The financial surgeon discovered that facility letters and the personal guarantee were not drawn up correctly. Therefore, the guarantee were null and void and the bank could not pursue legal action in respect of such personal guarantee. The bank obviously don’t ever admit this. In this case, no action was taken in respect of the personal guarantee.

As a matter of standard course, we always review the facility letters. Because you never know what you might find.

Case 5 – Bank Debt Settled for 5%

In this case, the company had gone into liquidation long before the financial surgeon was engaged. Company deficit was on the order of 2 million. However, the directors, 2 directors had personally guaranteed, jointly and severally, 1.2 million of the bank facilities. It was a valid personal guarantee. The difficulty, in this case, was that the 2 directors, director 1 and director 2, had jointly and severally guaranteed 1.2 million each. The bank could have gone after each director or one of the directors for 1.2 million but they could only yield 1.2 million. However, the difficulty for the 2 directors was they could be liable for 1.2 million.

The settlement, in this case, was to get both directors to obtain 2.5% of the gross amount from their family, friends and Credit Union in order to make a proposal of 30,000 each or, in fact, a lump sum of 60,000 to settle the guarantees of 1.2 million. This resulted in a saving, to the 2 clients, of 1,140,000 pounds. It took 14 months of negotiations to eventually achieve this settlement with the bank. If it’s one thing we are it is we are persistent and resilient.

There are some of you out there who might think “Was the bank not stupid to accept 60,000 when it had valid guarantees of 1.2 million?”. And the answer to that is NO. The bank was particularly financially astute in accepting such a settlement. The alternative for the bank is to issue High Court proceedings against each director, engage solicitors, engage barristers, management time and swearing Affidavits, etc. The total cost could easily be 80,000. And in the course of such a process, the 2 directors would have been forced to engage their own legal counsel, their own barristers, their own time to defend as best as they can or to delay, till they got to a better stage, this judgement. And in the course of defending such judgement, they would have dissipated the 60,000 that was available for the settlement.

Therefore, in simple terms, the bank, by pursuing the legal route, would have lost a further 140,000 because the 60,000 wouldn’t have been available at the end.

Case 6 – House Repossessed – Zero %

This case involved a principal private residence which was under structural renovation. The principals were living in their parents home while the structural renovations were being carried out. The substantial works have been primarily completed – just some decoration works outside, etc. However, the principals have run into financial difficulties and had placed the property on the market.

The bank had obtained a possession order in the Circuit Court. The bank solicitors had notified the sheriff, however, the sheriff had not completed the formalities of possession. The bank then sold the mortgage debt to a venture fund, sometimes called a vulture fund but I find them very fair to deal with. And a third party who had lived on the street when they were younger had approached the auctioneer interested in making a genuine, good offer for the property.

Parties then approached the financial surgeon to see if anything could be achieved for everybody out of this process. The mortgage debt was 815,000. Third party offer was 515,000. Venture funds have their own way of checking whether this is reasonable or not and they were happy with same. That left a deficit of 300,000 and the financial surgeon proposed to the venture fund 0%, nada, nothing from the principals other than co-operation which the financial surgeon would guarantee would be forthcoming from the principals to ensure an early sale and an early closing of the property.

The third party and the auctioneer were unsure whether the whole process would have to go through, whereby the house would have to be possessed by the sheriff, that the venture fund would have to appoint a receiver who would then appoint an auctioneer who would then sell it – a delayed process. But this was all avoided with everybody’s co-operation. It saved the venture fund legal fees, receiver’s fees, etc. and the sale and monies close quickly.

The clients were happy because this deficit, which would have been hanging over them, was clear and they would not have to worry about that again. And, in fact, they made 5,000 pounds by having reduced fees to auctioneers, etc., as a result of this process.

Case 7 – Property Receivers Removed

In this case, the businessman had 5 buy-to-let properties. There were large but not overly significant arrears in respect of each of the mortgages. The bank had appointed receivers to all 5 properties primarily because they hadn’t heard from the client or client wasn’t, in their view, fully engaging. The receivers were appointed prior to the consultation with the financial surgeon. The surgeon negotiates with the banks. It took a 6-month process but they then agreed to remove the receivers from all 5 properties. The surgeon then agreed a proposal with the bank over a 5-year period to restructure the loans at lower repayments which could then be met from the rental income.


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David Murray

David Murray

David is a fully and Highly Qualified Financial Accountant with an unblemished record for almost 30 years.

David has an extensive Academic Record including, inter alia – Gold Medal College of Commerce – First Place Chartered Accountancy (ROI) – Fastest Graduate to Qualify.

David has written many articles on International Trade Finance in Magazines and Sunday Business Newspapers. In addition, has been Late Late TV Show Tested on cases referred by them.

David has extensive Business Experience particularly in Property, Construction, Manufacturing, Equipment, Telecom, Service Companies, SME Sectors in Ireland, UK, Dubai, Poland, etc., Agent in Ireland Bank of Iran, Plc Bank Seminars “Finance for Builders”, etc., etc.

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